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New Vrindaban History, for the Record

By Ravindra-svarupa Das | Published 01/3/2007
Category: New Vrindavan Controversy , Hare Krishna News
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My dear devotees,

Please accept my humble obeisances. All glories to Srila Prabhupada.

I wish to offer a few remarks in regard to some emails concerning H.H. Radhanatha Swami, Tirtha Prabhu and others.

As some of you may recall, in 1987 the North American GBC decided that, for the protection of Srila Prabhupada’s movement, it should cooperate with the government in its case against Kirtanananda Swami and others. On three occasions, I myself testified in court as a prosecution witness. And I spent some time in consultation with the lead federal prosecutor, Michael Stein.

On several occasions, I was able to observe at first hand the thorough and systematic way the team of prosecution lawyers and FBI agents made their cases not only against Kirtanananda but against many of his lieutenants and foot-soldiers. Some of them, to protect themselves, eventually testified against Kirtanananda. So far as I could see, the government was thorough and relentless.

(At the same time, it became clear that the government had no antagonisms toward Krishna consciousness, toward ISKCON, and toward the many mislead New Vrindavan devotees. Michael Stein told me that in his view, Kirtanananda had taken a genuine religion of sincere people and perverted it into a criminal enterprise.)

At one point, Michael Stein talked to me about Radhanatha Swami. “Everyone says Radhanatha is a saintly person–not like Bhaktipad,” Michael said, “yet still he supports Bhaktipad. Why is that?” It was clear that Stein suspected that Radhanatha Swami had been compromised in some way.

I answered, “I don’t know. Why don’t you ask him?” I was curious myself. Michael said, “I’m going to do just that.”

He had some difficulty getting a hold of Maharaja, who of course spent much time in India. But finally Radhanatha Swami came in, voluntarily, for a meeting (or maybe an interrogation).

Some time later, Michael Stein told me that he had concluded–from his talk with Maharaja and whatever else he’d gathered from the government’s investigation–that Radhanatha Swami was not implicated in any of the criminal activities in New Vrindavan.

I accepted his judgment, and, in spit of these recent belated allegations, I still do. I think the federal prosecution had better judgment and more disinterested intentions than anyone now calling its decisions into question.

The government is not going to reopen its case. I am certain that any investigation of our own will serve only to cause distress, agitation, doubts, and so on, without getting us one millimeter closer to a firmer resolution. Since it takes only a little common sense to recognize this fact, I conclude that the real intention of those calling for such an investigation is, in fact, to bring about distress, agitation, and misgivings.

Concerning Tirtha Prabhu: Shortly after the “Winnebago incident” in 1993 had undeniably disclosed Kirtanananda’s sexual transgressions and shattered his facade for good, I happen to be at a former New Vrindavan center in Ohio. I was told that Tirtha was on the phone, and he wanted to talk to me. Speaking from jail, Tirtha told me that now he understood that Kirtanananda was not a pure devotee, and therefore that he himself, who had killed two devotees on Kirtanananda’s order, was guilty of murder. Tirtha asked me: “Now what should I do?” He said the government had been pressuring to talk, but he had never opened his mouth: he didn’t want to side against devotees, and he did not want to become a snitch. Now, however, he was wondering what to do.

I said to him at once that truth is the best prayascitta. He should go on record, answer all the government’s questions truthfully, and he should ask for nothing in exchange. Tirtha said that other devotees had told him the exact same thing. “That’s the best confirmation,” I said. Tirtha also noted that this course would be dangerous for him. New Vrindavan conducted a ministry in that prison, and when word got out, his life would be in danger.

Kirtanananda’s first conviction having been overturned on appeal, “the Swami” underwent a second trial, in which Tirtha’s testimony was crucial. I was in the court room for Tirtha’s cross-examination, and Kirtanananda’s very expensive, skillful criminal defense lawyer could not discredit him nor undermine his testimony. After that, Kirtanananda and his lawyers were granted a recess, during which they hammered out a deal with the government to present the judge. For sometime the prosecution had had a plea-bargan offeropen to Kirtanananda, but he’d refused it. But now,after Tirtha’s time in the witness stand, the defense clearly wanted to avoid at all costs sending the decision to the jury. So a guilty plea was accepted, and a sentence handed down. (The prosecution had an interest in settling because they were concerned with another appeal and possible reversal: Kirtanananda had hired America best appeal lawyers.)

I saw Tirtha later. His forearms were deeply scoured with newly healed knife wounds: he had been attached in jail by an inmate loyal to Bhaktipad.

In jail, Tirtha told me: “I belong in here.”

With this statement, we see the process of Krishna consciousness. If some little purification has begun, we will soon become clearly aware of the depth and breadth of the ocean of our own sins and offenses. They will become profoundly abhorrent to us, and with tears in our eyes we will beg Krishna for forgiveness, being ready, at the same time, to accept without protest any punishment He gives us. We think no punishment will actually be enough. We know that of our own will we turned our face from the Supreme Personality of God and came to this material work to embark on a crime spree against God and His creation.

When there is full acknowledgment of sins and deep regret, Krishna accepts his fallen servant back, for which undeserved mercy the servant feels unlimited and unending gratitude. In this way the fallen soul goes back to Godhead.

If, however, a devotee becomes unwilling or unable to acknowledge his sins and offenses, his progress stops. He does not know why; he certainly did not do anything wrong! Inwardly miserable and unhappy from lack of Krishna consciousness, he directs his anger toward others, and he decides it is really their fault he is not Krishna conscious. It’s them! Those other devotees! It’s the gurus! The GBC! In this way, he becomes a full-time faultfinder.

Or, he decides that actually he IS advanced in Krishna consciousness. The evidence is that he can see with such superior lucidity the shortcomings and failures of others. Joining the Ramacandra Puri sampradaya, he also becomes a full-time faultfinder. Such unfortunate souls, who try to rectify others as a substitute for rectifying themselves, only sink deeper into offenses and sins.

If we wish to make progress in Krishna consciousness we must take up the culture of the Holy Name. We must chant while diligently trying to give up offenses. Otherwise, chant as we may, the potency of the Holy Name will not act. We must follow this process.

In my experience, Tirtha Prabhu, in jail, shows much evidence of sincerely cultivating the Holy Name. I have had much more association with H. H. Radhanatha Swami. In my experience, he clearly exhibits the symptoms of one advanced in sincerely cultivating the Holy Name.

I am seriously concerned, on the other hand, about Janmastami Prabhu and Giri-Nayaka Prabhu. From the evidence of these emails, it seems that they have wandered from the path into the quicksand swamp of fault-finding. If so, I pray to Srila Prabhupada and Krishna to send one of their agents to help these two devotees before they fall further and further into mortal danger.

Your fallen servant,
Ravindra Svarupa dasa


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10 Comments
 
vaisnavasevadas Rating: ratingfullratingemptyratingemptyratingemptyratingempty Unrated
said this on 03 Jan 2007 1:25:14 AM EST
what a bag of bull. basically he's saying RNS is innocent because he says so, Tirtha shld be left alone coz he is repentant. The real guilty ones are Janmastami and Giri-nayak. No investigations coz it will agitate. Truth is not impt. lets carry on with the show. Bullshit!

 
Ray Rating: ratingfullratingemptyratingemptyratingemptyratingempty Unrated
said this on 03 Jan 2007 8:10:36 AM EST
We need to study this strategy carefully, because in this answer is embodied all the logical and religious manipulations needed to cover up any sort of corruption. RS could just as easily be Cardinal Mahoney speaking on the behalf of a pederast priest, invoking our forgiveness and understanding. We are not on God's side (RS side) if we choose to criticize his servants (murderer, child molestor). All the corrupt GBC members and their sympathizers take shelter of the injunction against apharada. As if Prabhupada himself did not denounce corruption in his own GBC (the Gaudiya Math)! This is wonderful. I can commit crimes or be complicit in them and still install myself as guru or governing body appointing guru and if you criticize me, your spiritual life is in danger.
It is not me who suffers the dire consequence of my cheating but you for pointing it out. LOL.
Thank you RS, I feel ready to face the world. I think I'll start my own math.

 
Ray Rating: ratingfullratingfullratingfullratingfullratingfull Unrated
said this on 03 Jan 2007 8:25:23 AM EST
I tried to post this before but it just disappeared. Please forgive me if it shows up again mysteriously.

We need to study this strategy of excuse carefully. It is classic. It embodies all the double talk of GBC cover up in its overlong corrupt history. Notice how RS expertly draws up the battle lines. The poor repentant victimized Tirtha, the misunderstood and maligned Radanath on the side of goodness and God. On the other we have Janmastami, who is a wandering fault-finder in mortal danger of losing his soul because he blew the whistle. Notice how few actual facts are being referenced. No attempt to draw facts into a proper representation of what truthfully happened.
In other words when somebody in authority commits a heinous act our attempt to discover the truth will endanger our soul. Not so the criminals. They have mystically been transformed into victims of our committment to Truth. This defender of corruption then has the audacity to PREACH TO US. What a hypocrite of the first magnitude!

 
Mathura das Rating: ratingfullratingfullratingfullratingfullratingfull Unrated
said this on 03 Jan 2007 6:02:15 PM EST
After reading Ravindra’s article, I think it important to also know his true nature.

Please view the following video of Ravindra in which he asks a person “How is your sl*t wife and b**tard kids?” :

http://youtube.com/watch?v=JEV8jb9s71s

What kind of Vaishnava is this?

Best,
Mathura das

 
Diya Rating: ratingfullratingemptyratingemptyratingemptyratingempty Unrated
said this on 04 Jan 2007 12:31:37 AM EST
hey look who is talking! We have seen your nasty video. That is the actual you, RASCAL SWARUPA.

 
Ray Rating: ratingfullratingemptyratingemptyratingemptyratingempty Unrated
said this on 04 Jan 2007 4:33:42 AM EST
I don't need a video to know RS true nature because this article exposes him. The video tells me the same.

Three responses that RS gives in the video -
"Peace brother"
"Follow the principles" and
"How's your sl_t wife and b_st_rd kids"

Apparently he couldn't shake off mathura so he becomes increasingly angry.

An innocent and holy sadhu would not have responded this way even under such criticisms. Certainly not an acarya which position he holds in IS CON.

 
an unknown user Rating: ratingfullratingemptyratingemptyratingemptyratingempty Unrated
said this on 05 Jan 2007 1:38:03 PM EST
I can't believe he thinks anyone will take him seriously. Basically, anyone who questions the GBC is just a fault-finder. What a load of rubbish. This man oozes arrogance. He thinks he is smarter than everyone but doesn't realize that anyone with some functioning brain cells can see right through him. This why electing the GBC would be such a better option for ISKCON. They would actually be accountable. But of course the GBC disagrees because people like this would be terminated immediately. I love ISKCON and I hate to see what is happening to it.

 
katchagoogoo Rating: ratingfullratingemptyratingemptyratingemptyratingempty Unrated
said this on 20 Jan 2007 4:36:42 PM EST
Poor attempt of intimidation, googoo.

 
katchagoogoo Rating: ratingfullratingfullratingfullratingfullratingfull Unrated
said this on 20 Jan 2007 5:40:23 PM EST
I disagree with Ravindra Svarupa's statements and his poor attempt of intimidating those who want to simply know the truth. But I do think this discusssion should have waited until Radhanath Swami has recovered from his present bad health, for simple humanitarian reasons. This debate with all the pre-judgements is likely to delay his recovery or even worsen his condition. While trying to reveal the cruelty of others one should not become guilty of the same mistake.

 
an unknown user Rating: ratingfullratingfullratingfullratingfullratingfull Unrated
said this on 02 Feb 2007 2:43:50 AM EST
Can someone who is in admin please erase these comments. I am going to end up in tears if these devotees go on criticizing other devotees. This is not right.


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