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"Tirtha was a Mass-murderer"

By Maha Mantra Dasa | Published 01/7/2007
Category: Hare Krishna News , New Vrindavan Controversy
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Tirtha was caught primarily due to his phone calls being tapped by police when he was calling asking about where his money was so he could get out of the country (while I was in West virginia as a witness, I heard from other witnesses what was going on in the courtroom). That recording was played to the jury during at least one trial. I believe Tirtha made one statement regarding that "it was if they wanted him to get caught".

One thing Tirtha said in the car we were in when observing the high-desert's unique body-hiding scenery was that he felt himself a low-class devotee, and that he felt that by killing Sulocana that he would be doing his guru a valuable service.

The letter about Sulocan asking for those with a ksatriya type spirit to help him kill the "gurus" was seen by Ramesvara and his remark was "does anyone take this guy seriously". That was kind of how I thought about it when I was first showed it by Krishna Katha. It wasn't until I was told that Sulocana had been seen in the LA Temple restaurant wearing a disguise and carrying a weapon that I paid any attention to what apparently was very alarming in a way to Krishna Katha (he was the "temple guard" in LA.) So, I very vaguely remember the letter, it was two pages I beleive, and it gave some argument why any devotee with such a spirit should help kill the gurus.

I also heard stories about Sulocana (these coming from Tirtha through Krishna Katha to me) that Sulocana had been in contact with the pipe-weilding attacker of Bhaktipada, and had later remarked that that person should have used a high-powered rifle.

Whether someone was creating these things to gain support for some motive beyond protecting gurus, I don't know, but Ramesvara obviously thought that the letter was from Sulocana. And maybe it was.

I also heard a story that Sulocana had been kicked out of New Vrindavan because he was taking cocaine, and then after Sulocana's wife was re-married to another devotee, Sulocana became determined to retaliate against Bhaktipada. I don't know what may have been truth or not, back then I was pretty believing in ISKCON devotees.

Also, I'm not just now coming forward, I told everything I knew in three trials on the stand (the fourth I didn't testify because the trial was cut short by Kirtanananda's plea-bargaining), and to many devotees over the years.

I'm only writing anything here because I know the importance of truth. Without truth things can't be made better.

In the last trial, Tirtha began describing how he had killed a woman who wasn't related to ISKCON. He stated that he no longer wished to cover for Kirtananda because of Tirtha's hearing about Kirtananda's child molesting. When Tirtha said that, the judge told the jury to forget they heard that, and it wasn't long after that, that Kirtananda's lawyers stopped the trial and plea-bargained with the judge.

I was told by Krishna Katha later that it had become apparent that Tirtha was a mass-murderer. Tirtha had described his activities as being a "mole" in Vietnam, someone that would crawl down into the tunnels of the Vietcong to kill them. He had told this history on the stand before describing murders he had committed, I think three in all. The New Vrindavan phones were tapped due to a previous murder to Sulocana.

Tirtha had been chasing Sulocana for several or maybe six months, and was getting anxious to finish his mission, wheras Janmastami was certainly more cool and could wait and not do something and get caught.

As for the government being involved, that is possible. There's a book that was written by the president of the National Rifle Association, something like "guns and freedom" wherein there is a chapter on Waco Texas and the Branch Dividians, describing the BATF/FBI massacre. In it, Lapierre states that he had talked with a BATF agent who said that if Waco would have gone "well", then, the Hare Krishna Temple in West Virginnia was to be next. Waco was in 1993, and Sulocana's murder was in 1986, so maybe there is some connection, maybe not.


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said this on 07 Jan 2007 3:25:53 AM EST
the neo-cons in the reagan white house, led by attorney general ed meese had a "hit list" of potentially subversive groups in the US. the KRSNA's made the top 10 list twice, once as the entity NVC, new vrndaban and once as the international organization. the government belief was that, internationally, the organization posed "no threat to anyone but themselves", whereas, NV on the other hand, had enrolled and registered enough new voters in 1980 to tip the balance of power in the county from democrat to republican. rajneesh posted higher on the government hit list than the KRSNA's because they had already successfully voted in their own sheriff and not because of any philosophical reasons, other than loyalty of more than twenty individuals to ANY person or organization other than the US government. NRA is wrong about "the KRSNA's would have been next". the raid on the KRSNA compound, january 1987 preceeds all other cult intradictions except lyndon larouche's group, reverend moon's church, and the ragneesh compound. NVC was the fourth systematic raid by the US justice department on religious groups in the US, those generally refered to by the neo-cons as cults. waco was raided after the NV raid, and the feds expected the same cake walk they had at NV when they got to waco. the initial shock and awe at waco left federal agents dead and wounded and it took a peace treaty to be able to evacute them. that peace treaty ended 80 days later. new vrndaban and ISKCON, on the other hand are apparently still in negotiations.

 
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said this on 07 Jan 2007 4:57:26 AM EST
Sulocana's motive of conjugal jealousy doesn't explain why he would want to single-handedly kill all the zonal acaryas, only the one that influenced his wife. From this article it seems at the time that Rameswara considered that allegation to be far-fetched. We only know that was the stated pretext for killing Sulocana - a preemptive defense of the guru. (Of course preemptive attack is acceptable nowadays if the Irag war is any indication.) Only the perpetrators really know and they're not telling.
Speculation about it doesn't bring us any closer to the truth.
There are so many incongruities. Like Sulocana not being allowed in New Vrndaban. How could he have gotten anywhere near Kirtananda with an iron bar? Or was this before he was ousted? Was the guru-defense motive based on this attack or the 'letter'?
If Sulocana wanted to kill all the gurus why would he publicize the fact in a letter? Was he stupid as well as crazy?
If he was that kind of hot-heated impulsive mad man why would he even bother to investigate his arch-enemy? Why waste timt to try and expose him? Just kill him and be done with it.
Also why draw suspicion on yourself by publishing an expose of the bogus gurus?
The vigilantism that seemed to prevail is disturbing especially under the rubric of ksatriya. I've such justification from some devotees even recently. It's that kind of thing that makes the whole Western vaisnava movement appear dangerous and 'culty' on par with the para-military group that bombed the Oklahoma federal building.


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